Generation Cedar

Excellent read about the real problem our society has, and why it’s ignorant to wag a finger in the face of the large family. (Although that’s easier than owning up to our responsibility.)

“On my street, in houses of similar size and function, you will find mostly couples with no children or 1 or 2 children. …They all live in 3 000+ sq. ft. homes built on former prime agricultural land, with 2 vehicles, air conditioning and heating brought to you by some coal-fired power plant somewhere in Ontario.

It doesn’t cost more to heat-up 3 000 square feet for a family of 10 than it does for a family of 2 by the way. Except that with the size of my bills, when the weather is nice I open the windows. Most of my neighbours turn-on the A/C in May and turn it off in October. And while my pile of garbage is bigger than theirs, the truck moves for them as much as it does for me… and their garbage pile is not one fifth of mine, although their household is. Their vehicles are never full and move at least as much as mine do, filled to the brim. This March Break, we stayed home bar a 60 minute drive to the nearest ski hill. Half of my children’s school friends flew-off to a sunnier destination. And you are shaking your accusatory finger at me?…

We use too much electricity, we drive too often and we wear too many clothes. We gather so much stuff that we must now build air-conditioned spaces to store our things. Do you really think that families like mine made Dymon Storage facilities pop like mushrooms? Not only have we covered our prime agricultural land with asphalt, we now build apartments for our stuff! We got there while our population was decreasing. Could you be looking for a culprit at the wrong place?”

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    1. If we’re going to make a true difference in the world, and help those in third world countries who truly are over-crowded, wouldn’t it make sense to raise a manageable family of fewer children very well? Give them the skills and funding to go forth and do good.

  1. As the mom of a family of 8, I say THANK YOU to this! Not only that, we also tend to shop at thrift stores and yard sales to recycle clothes and shoes and toys and other household goods than other families just buy “new”.

    1. Our family of four also shops at thrift stores and saves as much as we can to give to others. We can help every child God sends our way through church or the community, without ruining our health or stretching our own family too thin by having too many children biologically.

      1. Lea,

        You allude here to being a Christian and then speak of God’s design of our bodies as if it were broken, and the gift of children as if they should be avoided. Your worldview is inconsistent.

        1. That’s true… I just can’t reconcile being a good steward and considering the cost (Luke 14:28) with some of the ideas of Quiverfull. To me, all children are equal in the eyes of God. Why would i take on more than i can handle while limiting our family’s ability to help other children already here? I grew up in a large, poor family. I struggle to believe that God will miraculously provide. That’s where my faith is lacking.

          1. You’ve lifted Luke 14:28 entirely out of its context, the context being counting the cost of being a disciple of Christ.

            “To me, all children are equal in the eyes of God.”

            Yes. He loves them all. Dearly. And if He gives some couples one child, some eleven, some…[fill in the blank with any number], there’s something wrong with that? If God doesn’t ordain for His children to be distributed among families relatively equally, then we need to do something about that, as if God doesn’t know what He’s doing?

            “I grew up in a large, poor family. I struggle to believe that God will miraculously provide.”

            My husband grew up in a large, poor family, too, and God ALWAYS provided. And He provided a lot more than just food and shelter. My husband, by seeing his parents’ strong work ethics as they sought to be good stewards of the blessings the Lord provided, grew up to be a hard-working, excellent provider for our family, as well, not to mention being able to help out others in need around us, both larger families and smaller families than our family of eight.

            Much good character is developed in the context of hard work, and that is a priceless gift on which you cannot assign any monetary value.

            Finally, this: “Why would i take on more [children] than i can handle?”

            You don’t know how much you can handle. God does. Period.

          2. Wow 6 Arrows,

            How about showing a little love, mercy, and grace to Lea. I don’t think any of us can truly understand when maybe someone has been raised in a home where maybe the most basic of needs were not met. It takes time to grow as Christians and Moms. Maybe we could be a little more edifying and encouraging! Just saying..

  2. Just remember not to paint all small families with the same brushstroke! Some of us are small because that’s the way God ordained it. Although we might have a bit if a different lifestyle, many of us are still being good stewards of the resources God has given us.

    1. Amy,

      Certainly. And I don’t think the author intended to make small families out to be necessarily wasteful, but to point out the irony that large families, by necessity, often use the same or fewer resources, even though they get blamed when the wasteful lifestyle (large or small) doesn’t.

      1. Right, I get that, and I probably shouldn’t have said anything. I just get weary when I read these kinds of things sometimes. It is absolutely wonderful when large families can live a equally less wasteful lifestyle! Please forgive my comment.

      2. They may use the same resources up until those 10 children grow up and have ten houses of their own, and families of their own.

  3. The green agenda is a farce…there I said it. I’m reading a book at the moment called Green Hell and it highlights the corruption of the green industry and it is an industry worth trillions. It will make the uber rich even richer and more powerful. Humans are not causing climate change. Having a carbon tax or cap and trade will only cripple economies that need not be crippled and most of us will not be able to afford to live. What is being taxed (already in Australia) is carbon dioxide which is needed for the trees and plants to thrive. More carbon dioxide is converted to oxygen by ocean plankton and algae than trees (they are great for holding soil together though.) I have a friend who’s farm has been purchased by National Parks and Wildlife recently. The media flew overhead with a helicopter and were filming and commenting that “this is great, this bit of rubbish land over here (referring to a previously purchased parcel of land by NPW) is going to be turned into this pristine bit of land over here”. The reporter was told that no this wasn’t the case but the opposite was true. The pristine land until recently was a working cattle property owned by my friend. Goodbye pristine land full of wildlife; hello overgrown rubbish land with very little wildlife, but at least NPW is preserving it (sarcasm.) It’s this same agenda that would have us believe we are a disease on the earth. These people don’t just want you living more “sustainably” they don’t want you living at all. This is about them doing the exact opposite of what God told us to do. How much electricity I use is my business and there is more than enough to go around. Plastics do break down and better than we’re led to believe. I will now get down off my soap box ;-D

    1. I couldn’t agree more! I think it’s a matter of faith to understand that God created the universe and ordained a beginning and an end, and the end will come when He decides, not because humans have destroyed the earth. There is enough space, food, and energy to go around. God Himself made it and it is for our use and sustenance.

      Also, another perspective: I am from a developing country which emits carbon hundreds of times less than developed countries. Yet international authorities impose rules on countries like mine saying “don’t touch your coal or oil, invest in clean energy (wind, solar)”. Most people in the developed world cannot afford “clean” energy, much less the poor in the developing world. Many are convinced that the energy rules are an unjust political move.

    2. Wow, Haley. I guess big oil and big coal aren’t exploiting anyone or making anyone rich. You might want to check out the agendas of those write your reading material. Steven Milloy is paid lobbyist for the oil industry and the tobacco industry. I think people who exploit God’s Creation with glee – like Big Oil and others who hurt our lands – are disrespectful of God

      1. Isn’t it in the Bible that God will destroy those that destroy the earth? This makes me think that there must be humans who are destroying the earth, else why would that tidbit be added to the verse? It seems particularly unwise to continue to rape and pillage the earth rather than to develop the technologies that would mitigate this. We have been burning fossil fuels for energy for YEARS…why are we able to make so many advances in other technologies, but continue to rely on this as a primary method of power? The only thing I can think of is that those running this industry has an interest in preventing the use of alternative methods to power the world.

  4. Excellent, excellent, excellent! I’m going to point people to this article when the need arises and I can’t find the words. Thanks, Kelly!

  5. Daphne, I have watched a documentary that described exactly what you have mentioned. It’s terrible and killing people. There are three groups of people that those pushing the agenda want dead most: disabled people, Irish people and black people (I don’t understand why but it makes me angry.) I was friends with a lady from Sudan who’s baby brother died from Malaria (DDT could have gotten rid of the mosquito but it was demonized unnecessarily.)

    The world will overheat but when God decides; you’re right.

    Green energy is expensive and unreliable and we cannot afford to go down this path born out of fear mongering and dis-proven science. My husband works next to the scientists in queensland who do modelling and they told him if he saw their modelling he would be even more skeptical. So for science falsely so-called we are going to cripple economies and make the majority of people world-wide poor and desperate. Absolute madness. The beast is going to tread down the whole earth so says the Bible.

    1. Please explain where your degree in sciences is from, Haley, and how the science is disproved. Your “facts” are wrong.

  6. Sooo worth following the link. Overpopulation is NOT about births … It’s about prolonged lives. You don’t see folks complaining about *that* now, do you?

  7. Man’s days shall be 120 (saith the Lord) So we should have long life on Earth and the Earth should be able to sustain it. God wants us here the devil doesn’t.

  8. As a mom of one, not by our choice, I agree. People are just plain ignorant about causation of most things.

  9. I don’t have a problem with large families. I think they are great.

    Large families DO use more resources. They use more water doing laundry, taking showers, and going to the bathroom. If a family uses a dryer or has an electric water heater, they are using more electricity. If they have gas heat and a gas water heater, they are using more gas.

    I have an issue with the Duggar family. I realize we aren’t talking the Duggars, but they are a supersized family. Admittedly, they are probably on the extreme end, but it shows what damage a family of 21 can do. They have an industrial dishwasher but they use paper plates, and plastic utensils. Dishes don’t have to be breakable. You can get sturdy plastic plates that last a life time. The Duggars are not SAVING money. No, they are wasting it. AND filling up landfills.

    If each Duggar currently at home uses one paper plate and one plastic fork every meal, and throws away both when they are done, thats sixty-three plates and sixty-three forks in one day. In less than two days, they have used a carton of silverware and a set of paper plates. In a week, they have used 441 plates and forks. In a month, 1,764. In a year, 21,168. All of that going in their dumpster, going into a landfill. It gets buried underground, but if everyone had a family of more than six kids, we would quickly run out of room.

    Obviously, there are costs in everything. Personally, I think it would be cheaper to use the industrial dishwasher, AND better for the environment. Now, I realize its their money, so they can use it however they want. But then theres the trees being chopped down to make more paper. And the landfills filling up.

    I just think everyone needs to really pay attention to what they are doing to the Earth. God commands that we take care of ourselves and the world we live in. Are landfills and chopping down trees really taking care of the environment?

    And yes, a family of 12 is going to use more than a family of 4.

    1. Certainly large families, by necessity, use a few more resources in some areas. But those discussing this topic are never consistent. They saying “large families are bad (or irresponsible, or…) because they use more resources.” I know you didn’t say that outright, but it is implied that a smaller family is automatically better for the planet. I disagree with that statement.

      What you are NOT saying is,

      “Families shouldn’t go on vacation because they are using unnecessary fuel.”

      “People shouldn’t eat fast food.”

      “Large corporations requiring air travel should be ban.”

      “Mass production of goods and products is detrimental to the environment.” (Factories are the largest producers of pollution. I don’t hear the same frustration aimed at people for buying a bunch of stuff they don’t need which feeds the need for mass production.)

      “People who keep their thermostat below 78 in the summer are wasteful.” (We don’t, by the way.)

      “Buying new clothes is irresponsible when there are so many opportunities to buy used.”

      “If you don’t have a garden, you’re a drain on the planet.”

      “Buying sodas hurts the planet.”

      I could go on, but don’t have the time.

      I’m pointing out the fact that you are singling out a NATURAL occurrence (having children) as a threat to the earth, while ignoring the much larger problems–over-production from materialism and man’s misuse. Having children isn’t a “misuse” of responsibility. The way we choose to live or not, is.

      1. Well said. It is easier to point out what others, different from us, should do while not focusing on our own culpability.

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